**Note: IF congress allows due process protections to be stripped from those on these massive FBI lists, the premise for that will be quickly adopted by other federal agencies, even those with no interest in guns sales. There is no way this will be limited to the purchasing of guns. The recent event in Orlando was the stage show meant to shock the public into forfeiting their constitutional rights.
Senator Joe Manchin (D) appears not to understand the rights contained in the Constitution. Apparently, the right to due process, the constitutional protection against the very things he advocates, is a thorn in Senator Manchin’s hide. As he himself admits, due process is the firewall that prevents agencies such as the FBI, from adding individuals to lists of suspects….no evidence, no crime….they just decided you belonged on one of their lists.
Manchin goes on to say on on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe” that the right to due process, guaranteed by the Fifth Amendment of the US Constitution, had made it difficult to pass gun-control legislation denying those on the FBI’s terror watch list the ability to purchase a firearm. I would assume that with the massive non-stop surveillance that is carried on daily this would be virtually impossible to purchase a gun without the FBI, NSA, CIA and assorted other spy agencies knowing about it immediately. All that spying, all that data collection, the mountains of stolen information about everyone in the country……and the FBI couldn’t stop this man from purchasing guns?
Question: How can a man be employed by a security company that protects federal buildings among other things, and still be employed by that company if he is suspected of possible terrorism?
The problem Senator Manchin is that the FBI dropped the ball! Admitting they had questioned him twice indicates they had reason for concern. Due process did not prevent anything! And none of our constitutional rights have ever stood in the way of the FBI or any other American Gestapo organization from violating those rights whenever they choose.
the federal government’s central repository of known and suspected international terrorists, had 1.1 million entries as of December 2013, but only 25,000 were American citizens or lawful permanent residents.
commonly referred to as the terrorist watch list, had 800,000 entries in September 2014, but only 40,000 were U.S. citizens or lawful permanent residents.
But my question is: How do you rationally conclude that a combined 65,000 Americans are somehow a threat? To whom? Based on what criteria? Never mind the 1 million or more that you claim are suspects from international sources.
The sheer size of these numbers indicates that there is no firm criteria for identifying possible terrorists.
The right to due process exists to prevent agencies such as the FBI from abusing their power. Again, with the mountains of information being assembled daily on absolutely everyone, why would due process be an issue? Looked at in the context of the behavior of the FBI and its sordid history of fabricating evidence, staging terror plots, and generally misusing its authority and power…….why would you open the door on what is sure to be a weapon to be used against the public at large?
Orlando is being used just as 9/11 was to take away our Constitutional right to due process and the right to keep and bear arms.
As many have asked: Why are you holding innocent gun owners responsible for what one Muslim man did? Are you also holding all Muslims responsible for what he did?
“Nearly every examiner in an elite FBI forensic unit gave flawed testimony in almost all trials in which they offered evidence against criminal defendants over more than a two-decade period before 2000,” the newspaper reported, adding that “the cases include those of 32 defendants sentenced to death.”