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The Ruthie Report with guest: Rusty Fleming “Where Did the Towers Go?”

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1. salt-of-the-earth
   Oct 08, 2012 @ 17:26:33

   The Fake Truth Movement doing a great job distracting people from the startling facts of what happened on 9/11. Finally after 11 years we learn it wasn’t 2 buildings or even 3 buildings that went away — but seven buildings. Do I hear anybody in the Fake Movement mentioning any of this to this day? No.

   We finally learn after 11 years that it was not 5 or 6 people that jumped from the Twin Towers, but as many as 2,000 people jumped, and that they exploded on contact. This is an anomaly. People will definitely die if they jump from 100 floors above ground, but they won’t explode.

   We finally learn after 11 years that there were about 1500 cars surrounding the WTC in a half-mile radius that were toasted in the strangest ways — by fires that were not hot and do not burn paper. Hmmm. But this strange fire did have the ability to disappear the engines and door handles and the glass and to bubble the paint and wilt the frame of the cars.

   We finally learn about the lack of damage to the bathtub, bedrock, the WTC was built upon. The Fake Truth Movement tells us that all the destruction of the WTC (7 buildings) was done by controlled demolition, but no huge explosions were ever heard 25 or 50 or 100 miles away, and none of the TV videos recorded any ear-blasting loud thunderous explosions. Rather the buildings began to fizzle away silently. We could hear people screaming and talking, but no loud booms at all. Seven buildings went away silently. It’s 11 years later, and wouldn’t it be nice to know how these kinds of miracles can take place?

   The videos we’ve seen on TV, over and over — showing the big steel cores turning to dust and blowing away. All that fuming dust we saw on television and were told it was “smoke” and that the basements were full of molten metal, an inferno, that was melting the steel-toed boots of the firemen. Then Judy Wood comes along and tells us, no, that wasn’t smoke, that was the dust fuming away, and of course there were no steel-toed firemen’s boots melting away. Don’t you know what that would do to somebody’s feet? Duh.

   So 11 years later we are finally finding out WHAT happened on 9/11, and it’s nothing like we were told. The Fake Truth Movement told us WHO did it and HOW they did it but they never told us WHAT “they” did. And come to find out, what they told us about who did it and how they did it is probably as misleading as the lies we were told as to WHAT happened.

   Now the Fake Truth Movement is saying that nukes took down the WTC and that directed energy weapons were used to bring down a hijacked jet in Pennsylvania.

   Stupid.

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2. jrb
   Oct 07, 2012 @ 00:37:16

   Puhlease.

   How can this be? How can people want a new investigation? Conducted by whom? Where does that lead?

   Richard Gage is the spokesperson for an organization which he claims represents over 1,700 engineers and architects. Surely among this group there are people capable of researching and publishing a detailed forensic investigation. I would bet that some of these people actually do this kind of work to earn a living.

   But, for the record, Dr. Judy Wood has done a proper forensic investigation. And, to date, there are no technical challenges to her work–only some name calling and a lot of misrepresentation. Further her work has been peer reviewed.

   Let Richard Gage launch a Qui Tam case. He speaks with commitment. Show me through action that something is actually going to happen.

   Eleven years of arguing and asking for a new investigation doesn’t strike me to be much to boast about.

   Everyone can see that the official narrative lacks authenticity. I am suggesting that Richard Gage lacks authenticity based specifically on his track record. Rather than asking for another investigation, which would probably be another whitewash, he should complete an investigation where he looks at all of the data instead of selectively choosing data that fits his narrative in same way the official narrative has selectively chosen its data. Eleven years is plenty of time to publish many technical papers and books. I’d like to see some results!

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3. Abandon TV
   Oct 06, 2012 @ 21:08:00

   @ppjg

   Yes it was a sarcastic response, but it was sarcasm born of despair rather than web envy.

   Imagine the horror of watching people scramble from a sinking ship into a lifeboat but knowing the lifeboat has a hole in it as well. This is like the horror of watching genuine 9/11 truth seekers being led round and round in circles, year after year…… when instead they could be looking at the *physical evidence* and actually empowering themselves with the hard facts (and not just implausible theories).

   Did you look at the links in my previous post? If so what did you make of them?

   The whole point of my comment was that everyone keeps insisting that we need a new investigation in order to uncover the truth about 9/11.

   This is wrong on two counts:

   (1) A full, independent, forensic investigation into the physical events at the WTC has *already* been carried out by Dr Judy Wood Ph.D and this evidence has already been published in a 500 page text book as well as in numerous free presentations and interviews on youtube such as HERE.

   Dr Wood’s research contains no theories, no speculation, no finger pointing – only hard physical evidence. And her work includes ALL the physical evidence – instead of ignoring (and censoring) half of it as AE911 do. Dr Wood’s research is complete and unbiased and it empowers the truth seeker to better understand WHAT actually happened in New York on 9/11. You need to know WHAT the crime actually was before you can begin to investigate WHO did it and WHY.

   (2) We do not need a new investigation to find out what happened to the WTC on 9/11. The truth about what happened at the WTC is already known. The *evidence* already collected tells us exactly WHAT happened (and what didn’t happen).

   In the most simple terms the towers were turned to dust in mid air. You can even SEE the steel turning to dust in mid air with your own eyes!

   Watch THIS SLOW MOTION VIDEO and follow the steel as it falls through the air and pumps out massive quantities of dust in its wake ……. or look at THIS PICTURE showing exposed steel sections which are also pumping out thick dust in their wake like an giant steel alka seltzer tablets.

   Just those two links alone completely destroy the thermite theory because thermite does not turn steel to dust in mid air. And anyway there are no bright flashes, molten metal or heat in any of the videos and photos of the towers turning to dust. And not a single person was burned by the dust cloud. And unburned paper was everywhere.

   And if there had really been hot, molten metal in the basements for weeks it would have eventually cooled to form a giant ‘plug’ of solidified metal with loads of ‘junk’ stuck into it (pipes, girders, beams, concrete etc). This would have been a huge PITA to cut up and remove from ground zero. But no such plug of metal was ever found. Think about that for a moment…

   Also molten metal at over a thousand degrees in the rubble would have caused steam explosions when the firemen sprayed it with water (as they did for weeks). Try spraying water onto a barbecue and you’ll see what I mean. Yet there were no steam explosions either. The rubble was NOT venting steam or smoking because of high heat – it was essentially cold. Remember it was covered in all that unburned paper too.

   Yet we know that ground zero DID continue to ‘fume’ for months, if not years. Again, I urge you to think about that for a moment……. a cold debris field which fumes for months on end suggests something other than thermite – it suggests some kind of molecular disassociation is going on. Did you know they repaired the damaged WFC building only to then dismantle it right down to the ground piece by piece? The official reason was a ‘mould infection’ (eh?) but during the dismantling the building’s steel appeared to be ‘rustifying’ rapidly. I’ve never heard of thermite ‘infecting’ a neighbouring buildings with some kind of molecular dissociation – have you?

   All this EVIDENCE is ignored by AE911 – why? Shouldn’t we be looking at ALL of the evidence?

   Are you aware that 14 people survived inside the core of WTC1 (in ‘Stairwell B’)? They were situated underneath the ‘spire’ (which also was seen turning to dust). Imagine the amount of heat needed for thermite to slice through 47 core columns made out of steel 5″ thick (as well as the 240 perimeter columns) – and not just once but slice through them on every floor (or every few floors at least). This is the what the AE911 thermite controlled demolition theory says happened. Yet we know that despite being right inside the very core of WTC1 these 14 people were not burned by any thermite or molten metal, nor were they deafened by any explosions, nor were they crushed or buried by 500,000 tons of tower crashing down on top of them them. In fact after the dust cleared they saw sunlight coming in from a hole *above* their head and some of them even managed to crawl out by themselves.

   It’s preposterous to say that thermite melted through 47 steel core columns which were 5 inches thick, yet left people trapped inside that same core completely unburned and unharmed.

   And perhaps the most shocking physical evidence is the lack of debris. We know that those 14 people were not buried under 500,000 tons of debris. Count to 110 as you imagine each floor stacked above you, each floor weighing 4500 tons. Now imagine them crashing down in a controlled demo. If that really happened would you be able to just crawl out by yourself unharmed? (as survivors like firefighter Mickey Kross did)

   Do you want to see a picture of the WTC1 rubble ‘pile’ on 9/11? HERE IT IS (scroll down page to the the high res photo with the ambulance). You’ll see that the rubble is not even as high as the top of the lobby. The ambulance is parked at street level right outside WTC1 and it is not even dented (or buried under 500,00 tons). Please think about that for a moment and ask yourself how that is possible……. unless of course the towers turned to dust in mid air.

   The seismic signal also did not reflect two 110 story buildings crashing down to the ground from a controlled demolition. The seismic signals for WTC1 and 2 were equivalent to perhaps 30 floors hitting the ground, rather than 110 floors. WTC 7’s seismic signal was barely discernible from background noise.

   This is just a tiny fraction of the vast amount of physical evidence with blatantly contradicts both the official theory (jet fuel and collapse) and the official alternative theory (thermite controlled demolition).

   9/11 truth should not be centred on belief or theories (not even well intentioned ones). Nor should it be focused on ‘leaders’ or ‘groups’ or ‘movements’.

   It should be first and foremost about the *evidence*. If you follow the evidence the truth becomes crystal clear – about both 9/11 and the truth movement itself.

   Watch a presentation of some of the evidence compiled by Dr Wood HERE.

   Watch Andrew Johnson discuss the history of the 9/11 truth movement HERE

   More discussion with Dr Wood about 9/11 and the sorry state of the ‘truth movement’HERE

   “The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves” – Lenin

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4. ppjg
   Oct 06, 2012 @ 14:25:06

   LEts hope they can keep on! Maybe one day we will crawl out of our comfortable corners and admit that 9/11 was an inside job. Maybe then, instead of posting what are obviously sarcastic pieces generated from some sort web envy, we can look at what is before us from a need to know what really happened, instead of taking shots at those who are doing everything they can to get to the truth. While you whined and complained and tried to wax superior………what have YOU done other than attack others? Why don’t YOU set up an investigation for next year…or the year after? Calen

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5. Abandon TV
   Oct 06, 2012 @ 13:41:45

   Richard Gages and co should get a medal for services rendered to ‘the cause’!

   Just look at their stirling work – here we are 11 years on (!) and they are STILL working flat out to share their thermite powerpoint presentations with the world. Now THAT’S dedication for you!

   In fact I bet whenever someone today starts to question the official story and starts to look for answers on the web the very FIRST thing they encounter is thermite powerpoint presentations by the likes of Richard Gages and co.

   It must requires a lot of time effort (and money) to get this information so widely distributed on the web that it eclipses any other genuine scientifically qualified researchers who might have already conducted a full independent, forensic investigation of 9/11, published a 500 page text book compiling all this physical evidence, and already sue the NIST contractors for science fraud, taking the case all the way to the supreme court).

   Hat’s off to them – that’s what I say! It would seem they’ve got the 9/11 truth movement market cornered. No one else can even get a look in…

   Anyway, we can only hope that next year’s conference lasts for five days or six days or even twelve days or a month! Now that would be progress!

   And maybe one day, instead of just having conferences, they could build a year-round community for everyone who questions the official story to come and live in so they would be free to endlessly discuss thermite / thermate/ nano thermate/ thermitic material / super thermite / super saver nano thermate all day long and all year round.

   And to keep everyone focused on the truth no other subjects would be permitted! In fact anyone who tries to derail the truth (thermite) by talking about the mountain of physical evidence would be automatically kicked out of the community. (Or just ridiculed and then stoned to death as a blasphemer).

   And within the community they could even set up a small factory to make T-shirts and baseball caps promoting thermite and controlled demolition. Of course such a ‘concentrated’ truther-community would probably need a security fence around it, but I’m sure the money could be found from somewhere, then everyone who questions 9/11 could go and safely live in this concentrated truther camp.

   I’m sure uniforms could be provided somehow once everyone’s clothes had worn out. And once the camp was set up truthers they might FINALLY be able to get down to the serious business of really discussing thermite at length as well as discussing the desperate need for a new 9/11 investigation sometime in the future, if not next year then the year after, or at least sometime before 2050…. perhaps.

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6. Yoda
   Oct 06, 2012 @ 11:29:10

   Go Magic Marti:
   It should be obvious to casual observers that our freedoms and liberty are in a graveyard spiral.
   Be aware abd prepare!
   Right on Magic Marti – WRITE ON!
   Respectfullym Yoda@magnifiedview.co

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7. dachsielady
   Oct 06, 2012 @ 04:57:38

   It has been eleven years since 9-11-01.

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The Ruthie Report with guest: Rusty Fleming “Where Did the Towers Go?”