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The recent statements by Leon Panetta and joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey, to the effect that they are under no obligation to the Congress to seek their permission to start wars. Both Panetta and Dempsey claim their authority comes from the United Nations and NATO. These were clear and unambiguous declarations of submission to foreign governments, agencies and organizations and ended with the dismissing of the Constitution as not applicable to them or their decisions. I have to wonder why both men were not frog-marched out of the meeting and straight to jail. But then, we are talking about the District of Criminals here and we know it is rare that anyone from the District ever goes to jail no matter how anti-American, unlawful or unconstitutional or treasonous their activities or views.
Both men did however, say they might inform congress
Panetta was asked by Senator Jeff Sessions, “We spend our time worrying about the U.N., the Arab League, NATO and too little time, in my opinion, worrying about the elected representatives of the United States. As you go forward, will you consult with the United States Congress?”
The Defense Secretary responded “You know, our goal would be to seek international permission. And we would come to the Congress and inform you and determine how best to approach this, whether or not we would want to get permission from the Congress.”
So, if I understand this correctly: They would seek permission from non-US entities and then if they thought it was any business of the United States as to how our military would be used…….they would make a decision as to whether or not they would “want” to get permission from Congress? And these two are actually still walking around free?
Note: My goal would be to see Panetta and Dempsey both tried for treason and publicly hung. International permission be damned and congress along with it.
I believe it was this moment in time that Senator Sessions and his companions in the meeting realized that they were being given notice that their services were no longer needed. Panetta and Dempsey publicly, effectively declared that Congress was of no further use.
One Representative did respond with a resolution which no one else has bothered to co-sponsor with him or shown any support for. Representative Walter Jones R-NC submitted his response to the open declaration of the forfeiture of sovereignty of the United States to the UN and NATO, among other organizations.
H.Con.Res.107 – Expressing the sense of Congress that the use of offensive military force by a President without prior and clear authorization of an Act of Congress constitutes an impeachable high crime and misdemeanor under Article II, section 4 of the Constitution.
I find it more than ironic that this same congress, one that has repeatedly dismissed the American public as irrelevant as it subjected us to foreign agreements, harmonization agreements, Agenda 21 from the UN, and [world organizations] edicts and mandates, suddenly finds itself declared irrelevant along with the rest of us. This is the same congress that repeatedly sold us out to global corporations and which openly advocated for global interests, corrupt banking cartels and Wall Street thugs and crooks.
The sense of congress
I have to laugh every time I see “It is the sense of Congress” as a prelude to some statement made by congress. There is not one of us out here who believes for a minute that Congress has any sense at all, of anything, at any time. So absorbed in their own self-enrichment, so arrogant in their disregard for the people they were sent to the District of Criminals to represent, these same individuals were just informed that essentially…….their services were no longer needed.
Our military, at least the one we are being forced to finance and populate, is no longer subject to the control of the United States according to Panetta and Dempsey. From the statements by these two anti-American advocates, our military has been subverted and conscripted to global entities.
Again, I ask: Why were these two men not immediately arrested and frog marched out of the building and to a nearby jail? Why were they not incarcerated, without legal council, indefinitely? Why were they not stripped of their citizenship, declared domestic terrorists and tortured? Why didn’t Obama issue one of his murder memo’s targeting them and having them assassinated for openly declaring that they no longer served the United States? These things could happen to you or me for little or no reason at all. Yet these two traitors openly admitted and advocated for the overthrow of our military for foreign interests and then left that meeting and went to dinner.
Why did these Senators, including Jeff Sessions, sit there and take this? Why did not one of these arrogant, self serving jackasses leap from their seats and demand the immediate arrest of these two traitors?
The answer is simple actually. Congress no longer has the power or authority to object to anything, or to assert themselves. Whether controlled by Democrats or Republicans, congress has for years, shot itself in the foot so many times by initiating, acquiescing to, and constructing global agreements that forfeited our sovereignty and along with it their own power and authority; they have rendered them selves useless. Every time they voted against us, the people they were supposed to represent, they brought them selves one step closer to being out of a job. Panetta and Dempsey just handed them their pink slip.
As for that bill by Representative Walter Jones of North Carolina? Not one co-sponsor. Not one supporter in that collection of bloated, self serving congressmen.
Now the questions:
- Why should we, the American public, continue to finance the military on any level if it is no longer subject to US control?
- Since Panetta and Dempsey have declared that our military is now under control of foreign organizations and agents, will they allow service members to choose whether they want to continue in service to a foreign organization or be relieved of any further obligations?
- Will the United Nations and NATO now assume all costs of military actions?
- Will these foreign organizations that Panetta and Dempsey have subjected our military to, now assume all costs associated with military expansion, including funding the military industrial complex?
- And finally, considering the failure of “congress” to defend the nation from all enemies, both foreign and domestic, which I assume includes domestic enemies working for foreign organizations but collecting a paycheck from US taxpayers; will congress voluntarily step down and acknowledge their complicity in this treason against these United States?
And one last observation: Do not the statements by Panetta and Dempsey fall under the “Trading with the Enemy” Act?
As we have all witnessed the growing malice of the Federal government towards the people of the United States, the question that has nagged at many of us is: Would our own military turn on us?
We need to re-frame the question and give this some thought:
Would the military, formerly under the control and direction of Congress and the President, but now subverted and controlled by the United Nations and NATO, turn on us?
How does “I was just following orders”, sound to you?
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Jul 25, 2012 @ 20:05:39
None of you understand the big picture and most of you cannot even allow the possibility in your minds, let alone, your worlds. The flying saucers, the UFO, and their pilots, the ETs, are here folks. They have taken our measure and have found it lacking all across the board of what is reasonable even in human minds, and they have given us a directive. Shape up or…what? Maybe extermination eventually by our own hands, or at the least, quarantine. Our collective bigger governments have been given their instructions, do the NWO thing and Agenda 21 and maybe some things with education and family training. Who knows at this state.
You can object strongly to my words, but there is absolutely no way in Hell that you can ratiionalize what is being done right before our eyes. The US is being turned over to the dictates of the UN and that would not happen unless the leaders in power of any stripe had no choice. In short, the ETs have looked down upon us and have found us wanting and we must take corrective measures. Some of you may rightly conclude that the ETs may have been here earlier and given us religions in one way or another. That probably would not be an entirely wrong conclusion.
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Jul 25, 2012 @ 16:22:23
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Apr 02, 2012 @ 01:01:08
This is unbelievable . It so drastic that such a situation should not be possible in our country
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Mar 14, 2012 @ 17:02:59
Stop whining. You sound like you need a nipple. The majority of the military is waiting for middle America to stop whining and buck up to cleaning up the mess and carrying out the trash. The mess that CFRtv addicted america made ALL BY THMSELVES (see if your TV friends show up to help clean up the mess). if the situation goes to the worst likely outcome, YOUR mothers and fathers, sisters and brothers, will suffer for it. You can say goodbye to ever owning a house or going to college. Submission to the REP/DEM false government will put them in the mansion at the top of the hill and you in squalor, until you stand up for yourself and your family and neighbors. Anybody who goes long with the ABA, S&Bs, freemasons, The Knights of Malta, Rhodes scholars, and the rest of the groups loyal to the church of England and the Vatican and the Black Pope can die and go to service the devil. But remember, the devil does NOT share his toys
These attacks on the U.S. and the world like 9-11, Fukushima, the DH oil well at the Maconda prospect in the Gulf of Mexico, the Wall Street fraud, the HAARP weather attacks and resultant gaming of the ‘weather futures’ market and Mississippi river valley distressed-land carpetbagging are issues to be addressed by the proper authorities. Congress has abrogated their authority to the boob they attend to and if the military does it, it WILL be messy. It is our job to convince U.S. marshalls and county sheriffs to act such that the swine loyal to England will be forced to return there to help queen lizard throw a 50-year yard sale and property auction. They will need plenty of eager deputies. We will see what queen lizard thinks of the Rothschilds then when they show up to buy her out.
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Mar 14, 2012 @ 16:23:55
One of my grandfathers was a minister and the other one ws a republican. They are rolling in their GRAVES over the lazy, mewling and prancing fools americans have become. People have come from all over the world to be HERE and TAKE PART in the government which provides the most opportunity for personal growth, education and business opportunities. NOW, only the worst, representing the old world’s jealousies toward the personal freeedoms continue to expand the WORST of the U.S. potential and murder and spread perversion and tyranny at every opportunity. Middle America laps up the blood and cares NOT who pays the price. False churches speak of ‘a return of the Lord’. The original Aramaic translation of the Lord’s Prayer states “Our Lord, who art EVERYWHERE” or “Our Lord who art HERE AND ABOVE”. Today’s translation hs it that “Our Lord who art in heaven” is to be followed. Bullshit. You people obsessed with the CFRtv follow a false God. The Lord NEVER left earth. You just turned your back on Him for vice, little plastic toys, and buggering priests festooned with gold.
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Mar 14, 2012 @ 15:52:46
The end times have been near for at least 2000 years. Get a clue here. There is no guy in the sky that is coming to save you. You are not going to be looking down (or up) from anywhere when you die. Quit trying to live your life on an installment plan. get up! Get involved and quit trying to abdicate responsibility for your life to some mystical belief and using that as an excuse for why you did nothing. You people kill me……you will go to church every sunday and lsiten to nonsense but you won’t stand up and fight for the country that gave you the right to believe as much ridiculous crap as you can stand.
Religious beliefs: The lazy mans way of avoiding accountability cause the end times are near and a magic god is going to come save you.
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Mar 14, 2012 @ 13:25:23
I cannot believe that there is not one US rep who would put their country before themselves or their party. I am just thankful that I am a “born again Christian” and can watch from above as all of these people kill each other off. No one is safe from the terror, torture, hunger, etc. unless you give your life, heart and soul to Jesus. You better hurry as the end times are near!!
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Mar 13, 2012 @ 04:35:44
It may safely be assumed that ongress’ talents are restricted to mewling, and prncing. America’smistake out of unwarrented vanity is that these congressional candidates mewl and prance for them, the voting public. But the candidates DO NOT. They mewl and prance for the highestr bidder.Iit’s a special club, And you ain’t in it.
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 18:44:46
I think those of us who have been awake throughout this whole fiasco have known for decades that Amerika is simply the garrison for the elite’s New World Order.
And now those in charge of the garrison have come out boldly saying so. And STILL the TVZombies remain in their coma.
So…it’s all over but the screaming.
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 18:39:44
Gee whiz, there are one hell of alot of US officials and bankers right now that should be on the end of that rope.
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 17:09:38
AIPAC money will be against Walter Jones R-NC, who sponsored the resolution declaring violation of Congress power to declare war an impeachable offense. if he gets reelected in 2012 he won’t last more than another term
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 16:32:11
Bribery WAS against the law so congress passed a law making bribery legal and called it lobbying. Now, every corporation, special interest, foreign government and crazy billionaire that has their price, owns our government.
This is TREASON by all involved.
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 16:02:36
thats it america you have traitors , you are finished, the land of free oppurtunity exists no more it’s a dictorship, sieg heil USA
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 14:08:05
I’ve watched the NWO for 30 years, and have never seen them so BOLD…so OPEN… as they are today.
Clearly, we are approaching the dangerous end game of this 250 year old movement that started with the phony French Revolution (French Spring)
Globo-Zionism, the end goal being a one world government HQ’d in a Greater Israel.
I highly …highly recommend the mind-blowing photo-journalistic epic entitled FORBIDDEN HISTORY at http://www.TomatoBubble.com/id133.html
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 13:53:03
Ohhhhhh… We have a Constitution??? Where did it get miss laid? The corporation that runs this country is not unaware of the Constitution, they simply ignore it because as a corporation they have more rights that we do. So they only consult the Constitution when and only when it serves them… period. This USA corporation is an extension of those corporations like the East india Trading Company or the Hudson Bay Company… Both Corporations!
This is nothing new… I mean come on…Vietnam was unlawful… we had absolutely no business being there… what makes the wars since then any more lawful. But then we must remember that “lawful” is a Constitutional term. “Legal” is a corporations term… so given that… you and I have no say. The united nations is also a corporation and this includes all of its minions… And of course they are all run by the City Of London… found in down town London, England. The City Of London, a bankers dream, cannot be auditited, has its own government (like ours) and has its own police force… sound familiar? Of course, the City Of London runs the Federal Reserve Bank… which cannot be auditited, etc.
We are living the American Dream… it’s just that to live it one must be alseep.
Thank you George Carlin.
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Mar 12, 2012 @ 05:39:38
david, you have made good points but what will happen tommrow, next
week, month? check out Domestic Terrorist [ on the right side of this page.]
the land grab so they can herd people into city area’s [ easier controll of
the people [ the one’s that are left . with the law that was passed awhile
back, they can take anybody away without giving a reason. why was this
law passed? alot of things going on that we [ citizens ] have no clue, YET.
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Mar 11, 2012 @ 03:12:42
this is another step of stripping americans of their freedom. the powers
that be have been working towards this [ behind our back ] since he
took power.what do we do? is congress going to do something or let
this happen and our country controlled by other countries? this has to
be dealt with ASAP and pray that this can be turned around.
next? marshall law? feme camps? reduce the population to make it
easier to control who’s left ?
we need action NOW and congress better do something or else??????????
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Mar 10, 2012 @ 18:49:01
the hand of tyranny has been placed upon us in 1913. the hand of control was placed on us that day.. we are now only the masses to be kept into our cages.
our words never to be heard again as mandates are secured to silence the people. Well this one man says to silence me you must first go past God to make that happen.
For i an my people resist you daily as we take back our power in our Republics one county at a time.
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Mar 10, 2012 @ 17:27:16
TREASON! We the People must prosecute TREASON because all three branches of government in the District of Criminals are thoroughly corrupt and given to the International Socialists of the United Nations New World Order. Just look at Justice Ginsburg or former Justice O’Connor who openly advocate world law over the US Constitution! Look at the near toal usurpation of Congress with the “Super Committee” as well as Panetta’s bald-faced dismissal of Congress’s authority in matters of warfare or foreign policy. The NDAA of 2012 and also HR 347 amount to nothing less than a declaration of war against the American people and total abrogation of the Constitutrion and our Bill of Rights. It is up to us, people. Will you accept socialist/fascist tyranny? Or will you choose like Paul Revere and the Minute Men: Live Free or Die Trying!
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Mar 10, 2012 @ 17:08:29
That is exactly what they will tell you.
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