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We are being preconditioned for another war of aggression, this time against Iran. We are being systematically deceived into thinking that Iran is now out to get us. Maybe they are…now. Let me see, we have cut off major food supplies, put a wrench in their banking system and messed up their economy, and have positioned several of our warships in the Straights of Hormuz showing them that we are a clear and present danger to their continued existence. They might just be upset with us. Ya think?
Announcements on cable news shows and subsequent statements by US 
officials claim that Israel is contemplating attacking Iran this spring some time. These statements are issued with a casualness of announcing a garden party. For some reason it is unacceptable for Iran to have nuclear weapons, but quite alright for Israel to have more than 200 bunker buster mini nukes at their disposal provided to them by our government.
Three days after the initial announcement of this preplanned war of aggression in MSM venues, newspaper headlines across the country claimed “Iran planning attacks inside the US”. Personally, I believe that this is just advanced warning that future false flag attacks, perpetrated by the CIA on behalf of global interests will occur in the US. Of course, Iran will be blamed immediately, we’ll blow them off the map and ten years from now we’ll find out the whole thing was rigged and based on fictional events that never happened; at least not by the people we thought caused them. Don’t worry though. There will never be an honest investigation, no charges will ever be filed against those who really did attack us, and evidence will be destroyed faster than you can strike a match.
But we sold Israel those nukes and once the weapons were delivered, the stage was set.
“With the sale of deep-penetrating bombs called GBU-28 Hard Target Penetrators, Obama is satisfying a weapons request Israel first made during the Bush administration.
Israel’s request for bunker-busters in 2005 was denied. At the time, the Defense Department had frozen most military sales to Israel because of concerns Israel was transferring advanced military technology to China. [end quote]
While the Israeli government and military may now be in possession of nuclear weapons, it is the people of Israel who will pay the price if any of those weapons are used. The Israeli people have found themselves in the same position as Americans in the US; pawns, cannon fodder and totally expendable as far as their government is concerned. Like us, the Israeli people have no say, no control over their government or what it does.
I believe the only thing that will stop this is the unspoken threat that if Israel launches attacks on Iran, many other mid-eastern countries will join forces and move against Israel. And who will pay for that? The puppet masters behind the scenes that set all of this into motion? Or will it be the people of Israel and the populations of other mid-eastern countries that will be sacrificed to the global war machine that systematically raids and plunders one country after another, selling off the assets of those countries to global corporations which have a vested interest in the outcome.
But there is more to this.
Iran along with Russia recently dropped the US dollar as the reserve currency moving to its own currency and other world currencies. Most affected by this was the oil trade, but it also further removed Iran from the grips of the World Bank/Central Banking cartel. And you know what we do to countries that refuse to be part of the World Bank and who nationalize the oil profits! Well…..just ask Libya
“During the last two years Iran has been replacing the dollar with other currencies in its world trade.
Iran has replaced the dollar in its oil trade with India, China, and Japan. Late in November the Reserve Bank of India issued the needed permission to the Central Bank of Iran to open rupee accounts with two Indian banks, UCO and IDBI, as a long-lasting solution to the two countries’ payment problems. [end quote]
Iran sits atop three of the largest known oil fields in the world and has the audacity to refuse to let the global cartels in to raid and plunder them. It is also the last of the mid-eastern countries that operated independent of US influence, the World Bank and global oil cartels.
With all of the hyped up propaganda coming from cable news shows, government officials and others, its hard to know what is true and what is not regarding statements supposedly made by Iranian leaders with regards to Israel. Its not like it would be the first time our government and its parrots lied to us not only about the reasons for war, but also about why they were so determined to start one.
Bear in mind that our own government sanctioned the airing of fictional tapes supposedly showing Bin Laden threatening us, which the CIA had to later admit were phony.
I am waiting for the usual “human rights” violations claim that always precedes an attack on a country that refuses to submit to our demands.
If all else fails and Americans don’t seem to be fully engaged in the war machine, human rights violations are always the hat trick. Women and children will be used to describe horrendous conditions that require military action to correct. Next will come the claim that the Bible says we should attack another country because that is what God wants and if we are good Christians and want to do God’s work we cannot object or we risk being sent to some imaginary hell.
Afghanistan is a perfect example of this. Claiming that Afghan women were being abused and killed by Afghan men and their government (and they were/are!) we rolled into that country and blew it to bits, covered it with depleted uranium, and rescued and saved not one woman or child. But hey! Those Afghan poppy fields, controlled by the CIA are banging right along with record production. And we are still there. After all, the oil is still there and so are the poppy’s. And, so are the women encased in their canvas prisons.
While we systematically attack and destroy one mid-eastern country after another, we simultaneously label their leaders as “madmen, despots, brutal dictators” and assorted other words that invoke images that somehow we separate ourselves from, failing to recognize the madmen and dictators in front of us.
Then we label their armies as terrorist organizations. At the same time, we engage in kidnappings for torture and destroy for eternity the water supplies, vegetation and soil of the country we invaded with depleted uranium. We kill off hundreds of thousands of indigenous people, destroy their homes and label them as “enemy combatants” if they try to defend their homes and families. We hold prisoners that have never been charged with any crimes and even where there is no evidence that they committed any crime and among these prisoners are many children.
And what about our own despotic leaders? Bush 2? Obama? Are they in fact any different than the leaders of foreign countries we have invaded?
If a foreign army invaded us would you surrender or fight to defend your land, home and family? Most of us would fight to the death.
Why do we expect the people of nations we have invaded with the intent of occupation to lay down their arms, to surrender everything they have and to just lay down? We wouldn’t do it. Yet we stood by and allowed our government to declare that anyone who resisted the occupation was an enemy combatant. How can you be an enemy combatant in your own country? I suppose we are about to find out now that the NDAA has been passed to compliment the 2006 Military Commissions Act, the John Warner Defense Authorization Act of 2007 and the insidious Patriot Acts; all parts of the intent by our own government to reduce us, its own citizens, to combatant/domestic terrorist status for political dissent and failure to comply.
In reality, who is the terrorist government here? Whose army marches relentlessly into foreign countries? We have sent thousands of our own military to their deaths while claiming that we are liberating a nation only to find out that global corporations had divvied up the assets of that country before the first shot was fired and that liberation was the last thing our government had in mind. And our wounded soldiers? We leave them in the streets or lie about what we did to them after exposing them to depleted uranium, contaminated vaccines, pesticides, and other biological and germ warfare testing.
While we hear the beating of yet another war drum we need to ask ourselves: At what point will these other countries along with some larger ally such as China or Russia, decide that WE are a terrorist nation and a threat to world peace? When will they look at our growing history of wars of aggression, human rights violations, our torturing of people we have kidnapped from their countries, our bombing of water supplies and destruction of agricultural sectors and contamination of absolutely everything with depleted uranium and god knows what else?
At what point do we admit that we have become what we claimed to despise? We are not a peaceful nation. When will other nations of the world use the same weak arguments, the same propaganda to come after us? When will the rest of the world reach the consensus that we represent a threat to world peace? And when will they decide that the only option they have is to form a coalition and invade us?
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Mar 07, 2012 @ 16:18:05
Mar 01, 2012 @ 23:06:31
@ Andy Cohen-Martin (Rabbi)
I would certainly never trust you to speak the truth on any matter
“All Israelites will have a part in the future world – The Goyim, at the end of the world will be handed over to the angel Duma and sent down to hell”. Zohar, Shemoth, Toldoth Noah, Lekh-Lekha .
“Happy will be the lost of Israel, whom the Holy One, blessed be He, has chosen from amongst the Goyim, of whom the Scriptures say: ”Their work is but vanity, it is an illusion at which we must laugh, they will all perish when God visits them in His wrath.’ At the moment when the Holy One, blessed be He, will exterminate all the Goyim of the world, Israel alone will subsist, even as it is written: ‘ ‘The Lord alone will appear great on that day! …’” Zohar, Vayshlah 177b
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Feb 27, 2012 @ 04:47:08
Why is the most totataliterian Islamic States in the world;Saudi Arabia,ad Kuwait not so villified as the rest?The have there money in Rothchild Banks!The war against Saddam,Quaddafi,Syria,and the push for attacking Iran ia all about the sheckels.If the USA and its Allies could deter the Soviet Union for 50 years it certainly could Iran and the rest.No;the Rothchild State known as Israel wants war.It’s about the petro-dollar,the banks and oil.Bush/Cheney told us the Iraq war, would be paid for by capturing Iraq’s resources.Now big oil is in,but the conflict which almost destroyed the USA economically was not paid for,nor are your fuel bills lower.Wait till it really gets going with Iran.You’ll be riding bicylces like in Mao’s China,but than the Neoconservatives are all ex-Jewish Trotskyites,aren’t they?
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Feb 25, 2012 @ 08:05:59
Well,Well,the Jews have penterated the Gazette!FOX,CNN,MSN(They had Buchanan fired)CBS,NBC,ABC,Holllywood,but at least we have some freedom on the internet.But they are watching!!!!And so now we get the rants of a dear learned Rabbi of the ‘Self Chosen ‘people of Yaweh,a vicioius Sumarian War god,who taugbt them to lie,murder,and steal,for him and set up a race/tribe system, to exploit others and call it a religion.Well perhaps the great Rabbi,and our monitor should be’educated’,like he recommends for others,as we all know how’ brilliant’ the Jews are.The Jews set up Communisem to overthrow the hated Czars.It was finanched in London,and New Yrk by Jacob Schiff,and the Rothchilds(57%US Federal REserve)and others of that talented people above all law.They used the Bolshivicks(Minority people-Jews)to rule the masses.96% of the Politboro were Jews.So Easter Germany,nd all of Eastern Europe was to be given to them by the Yalta Agreement,set up by the worlds three greatest war criminals and Zionist Rothchild toadys FDR,Churchill,and Stalin.Isreal of course was part of the scheme since the Balfour declaration of 1919.it was not in recompense for any so-called Holacaust.So that insanity we live with today.A racist state in the Mideast constantly agitating for Armegedden was the goal, of Rothchild long before the Zionist inspired catastrophe known as WW2.Today we live under a Jewish yoke that pervades every nuance of our society.Tomarrow they seek more and more war.Iran is there next victm,but it will not be any easy prey. Although not as strong,as the Axis of ww2,they are techincally advanced,have powerful friends(Russia,China)and are,determined,ideologically prepared,and ready to sacrifice themselves.Surely they can be overcome,and the Neoconservatives/Jews pushing for this know this.But in victory,victors are often undone.So beware Zionists and be careful what you wish for.
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Feb 23, 2012 @ 14:45:15
In response to Dante Ardenz:
In a word – what absolute nonsense! Germany nor any sector of it was ever given to the Jews in part recompense for the Holocaust. If this had been so, then there would never have been any need to create or establish the State of Israel in 1948. You can begin your education here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Israel
The only ‘merry go round’ in evidence in this forum are the assertions of those who seem to be armchair travellers, ‘closet’ Muslims, those toxically tainted against their own country or others so badly informed, one wonders if they’ve ever been further than their own backyards.
What you have in Iran is a fanatical and ‘stone-age’ religious form of totalitarian Fascism. Worse still, this vile ‘religion’ seeks, via it’s puppetmasters the Ayotollahs, Mullahs and other so-called figures of learning, to spread it around the world to the exclusion of all else, under the hideous shroud of Sharia Law.
Basically, this religion speaks nothing but Sunn dried camel Shi-ite. It always has and always will. Change has to come from within and from the ‘peaceful’ Muslims, if there are indeed any, or if at all. Ergo: Not. If they cannot get their own house in order, then it is they themselves who have to deeply examine their own consciences – and the consequences. It is not our fault in the modern, enlightened and civilised nations if insane, rabid religious leaders rule over an acquiescent, emasculated and sodomised public. These beliefs hobble Iran and it’s Arabic satellites and anywhere else the modern day bubonic plague of Islam has spread, to some Neanderthal ‘take’ on the meaning of life. Talk about an Arab Spring ? It’s going to take more than a ‘spring’ – more like a ‘Samsonite’ pole vault of the intellect to effect any worthwhile or beneficial change. Enforced lobotomies would have more chance. Therefore a lost cause. Therefore hopeless.
This is what Islam is – need anyone be reminded ? :
( sounds like ‘The Fuhrer’ ? )
Naturally, should a war begin ( a war that no-one wants ? ) then there are going to be the most dire of consequences. And so many more young American lives lost, young men and women who believe they are doing their honorable duty in service of the freedoms we so dearly cherish. Shame on those of you would cast a pall over what the ghosts of WW1 and WW2 fought and died for already. And if you don’t like the present Gov’t in your own free democracy – use your power of the vote to effect change. Or do what Gandhi did and stage peaceful non co-operation until your leaders listen. It’s been done before and it can be done again. Something about the ‘will’ of the people.
Of course, it’s easier to bleat like sheep in forums like this, which achieve nothing, only to pit writer against writer. What good is that ? A waste of time, that is what. Why quarrel about the peripherals when at the very heart of the matter is religious insanity. Cure that, and I would call it a good start.
Step one would be to bar any further Islamic immigration into our free democracies – we are not Muslims and do not wish to be Muslim. We don’t want any part of it, or ‘them’. Step two would be to have seperate airports for all Muslims – a solution to the endless ques and weary inconveniences/invasive body searches etc ad nausuem at OUR airports. It’s them and their bedfellows that caused the problem, so let them eat it.
Let’s allow Air Allah or Air Jihad to fly them on their way back to Mecca. End of problem! Removal of passports, sale of personal goods to cover taxpayers losses, then give them a firm boot in the ‘aris in the direction of Mecca. They should not be re-admitted to our countries until they can prove they’ve left the Stone Age and embraced the millenium we currently live in. And good riddance to the cloaked, veiled, bearded and insane caravan of them I say – and the sooner the better. Let them figuratively boil in their own oil.
The rest of us can follow the sun – solar, convective energies! – and have far less dependence on oil. As long as OPEC has us by the gonads, and unless we have more protectionist policies in place – and someone like Ron Paul sitting in the WhiteHouse, we’re all as much slaves to the Federal Reserve as the brain dead proletariat of Iran are to Islam.
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Feb 23, 2012 @ 09:42:03
This, very broadly speaking, is an overview of the so-called ‘Samson Option’. No-one in their right mind’s would exercise it in any case – and as for the suggestion that Israel would use nuclear weapons against it’s allies is total nonsense! Risky political brinkmanship, such as often dangerously employed by North Korea – and the Iranian regime – is another thing entirely.
“The Samson Option is a term used to describe Israel’s alleged deterrence strategy of massive retaliation with nuclear weapons as a “last resort” against nations whose military attacks threaten its existence, and possibly against other targets as well. Israel refuses to admit it has nuclear weapons or to describe how it would use them, an official policy of nuclear ambiguity, also known as “nuclear opacity.” This has made it difficult for anyone outside the Israeli government to definitively describe its true nuclear policy, while still allowing Israel to influence the perceptions, strategies and actions of other governments.
As early as 1976, the CIA believed that Israel possessed 10 to 20 nuclear weapons. By 2002 it was estimated that the number had increased to between 75 and 200 thermonuclear weapons, each in the multiple-megaton range. Kenneth S. Brower has estimated as many as 400 nuclear weapons. These can be launched from land, sea and air. This gives Israel a second strike option even if much of the country is destroyed.
The term “Samson Option” has also been used more generally in reference to Israel’s nuclear program. Commentators have also employed the term in reference to situations where non-nuclear, non-Israeli actors, such as Saddam Hussein, Yassir Arafat and Hezbollah have threatened conventional weapons retaliation—and even regarding former United States President George W. Bush’s foreign policy.”
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Feb 23, 2012 @ 03:08:50
Well I see the Merry-Go-Round of poor comparisons to ‘Nazi’s,”Hitlery’,and such insanity of giving Germany to the Jews after WW2!
Well guess what?They did.The East went to Jewish Bolshivesem,(until Stalin said no to Rothchild,and the Cold War ensued)and the West was occupied.United Germany is is a semi-controlled state without a final peace treaty!Even on this courageouse website I see such historical sanctimonious nonsense.Thats why we can’t combat who occupies us.The Zionists even control the anti-Zionist dialogue!!!!Iran,Iraq,ww1 Germany,and YES the The Third Reich DID NOT WANT WAR with the West.This was also true in Napolianic Times.The lies,or the drill was the same,then; as it is now.These nations had,by sometimes desperate,or cruel means threw off the Rothchild Yoke,and than the tensions were built and the crosses prepared for there national crucfixions.Todays wars,as the pasts are about the banking system.The USA was free untl 1913,than the Federal Reserve enshrined the elites,and the Rothchilds into our national system.Every war up till now is about the preservation of this there power.So learn,and stop the clices’.See Pat Buchanans;THE UNNECESSARY WAR.HITLERS WAR by master historian,David Irving.DavidIrvingActionReport.com
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Feb 21, 2012 @ 23:40:53
Mothman: You write with an edge of hysteria and fanaticism – indeed I do not trust you. How can you categorically state that Iran does not seek to attain nuclear weapons ? You have knowledge perhaps that has somehow eluded everyone else ? And why do you hide behind a non de plume ? Let’s agree to disagree then – and in any case I can read behind the lines of your posts that you are vehemently anti-‘western’, or anti-American to be more exact ?
Let’s look at things another way and I don’t direct my response here at you personally but to anyone who may wish to add valid and balanced comment. For all the failings of our democracies, I would rather live under those auspices than those of the twisted and fanatical Neanderthal festering minds that reside in the Stone Age and under the heel of an Aladdin’s repressive shoe. It’s merely another form of Fascism but under a dish-dash. Consider this:
A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to WW-2, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism. He said, “ Very few people were true Nazis but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care.
I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.”
We are told again and again by ‘experts’ and ‘talking heads’ that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.
The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history.
It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honour-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.
The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the ‘silent majority’, is cowed and extraneous.
Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant. China’s huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.
The average Japanese individual prior to WW-2 was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.
And who can forget Rwanda, which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were ‘peace loving’ ? History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points:
Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence.
Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don’t speak up, because like my friend from Germany, they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.
Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late. As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts – the fanatics who threaten our way of life.
Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it – before it’s too late.
Or live with your conscience and add the appellation ‘- istan’ to the name of the country where you presently live otherwise. For example, how about ‘Denmarkistan’ – how does that sound ? By then it will already be a fait accompli. Things have gone far enough. Please don’t say you weren’t warned. Everybody knows that the farcical and lunatic Court of Human Rights is not going to take seriously your ‘inalieble right to an ‘American’ way of life’ … don’t you ? Quasimodo has more chance of getting a love bite from Esmeralda … ( Substitute the name of your own free democracy here ie: Dutch, Swiss, Danish, Norwegian, British, German, Belgian, French etc … )
Will sane minds won’t win this or any other argument ? – unlikely. We only need to look at history for confirmation. I don’t advocate war in any shape or form. But the illogical minds of the religious Muslim fanatics are hard at work as ever, trying to justify their driving mission to throw the suffocating, stifling cloak of Islam over the Western light of learning and progress – and the entire globe – at any cost.
Fettering us to some knuckle-dragging, brutal dark age where women are 3rd rate citizens in tandem with a de facto preponderance to marry pre-pubescent girls, or bury them alive, or stone them to death et-nauseating-cetera.
“First we taken Manhattan – then we take Berlin!…” – Leonard Cohen
As children, our parents try to prepare us for life and the big wide world. But no-one except doctors and pyshyciatrists can prepare us for having to deal with the insane. And even then, the only known remedial action that has been employed with any success is heavy medication, restraint and incarceration for very prolonged periods of time. How to restrain a whole nation…? Give or take a kiloton or two…
So let’s all go to war – bring on the Mahgdi – ( I think not ) – and perhaps those that manage to crawl from under the irradiated ashes of what has arguably taken 2,000 years and more to build in the name of progress can be saved by some post-apocalyptic version of the Koran, as those sorry souls join hands and look heavenward for guidance.
Or maybe next time, they’ll do the sensible thing and cast religion into the bottomless pit it prophesied for everyone else. At least there wouldn’t be anything left to fight about – at least not in the name of religion.
“Ring the bells that still can ring, forget your perfect offering, there is a crack, a crack in everything, that’s how the light gets in, that’s how the light gets in…” – Leonard Cohen
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The staging of yet another war: We are what we claimed we despised | silveristhenew
Feb 21, 2012 @ 09:32:58
Feb 21, 2012 @ 03:58:12
I completely agree with everything that Rabbi Andy Martin is saying here
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Feb 21, 2012 @ 01:38:30
I find your hasbara logic twisted and indefensible. I did not misquote the Samson Option, try reading it again, and you contradict me unjustifiably regarding the Jewish man named Leo Szilard, as he was indeed the inventor of the atom bomb in 1934.
Ad hominem comments about not trusting me because I write here under a nom de plume are unacceptable. What I write is truth, what you write is propaganda.
We have all seen the shameless lies about the Iranian cleric who has purportedly threatened to wipe Israel of the map, I am sorry, but that little lie just won’t work anymore.
Try justifying the next false flag against the gentile peoples, is it really alright to kill thousands of innocents to swing public opinion towards war that only Israel wants, for the people you truly represent? Here is what Germany thought of atomic weapons; compare the German attitude with that of Israel.http://www.thenewsturmer.com/Historical%20News%20Letter/DidHitlerwanttheAbomb.htm
In complete madness, Israel is prepared to destroy the world if it does not get world hegemony; that is the literal threat, and it should be that threat and that threat alone that the military forces of the rest of the world are currently addressing, because that threat is genuinely real and backed up by weapons aimed at us right now.
You are confabulating and lie to us all shamelessly when you deludedly claim that Iran intends to threaten the world with nuclear weapons. What you write is pure rubbish, as Iran has never had and never will have nuclear weapons. It is, may I remind you, a signatory to non-nuclear proliferation and has no intention of developing nuclear weapons.
As soon as the atom bomb was developed by Jewish scientists outside Germany, the technology was given straight to Stalin and Israel, so that Bolshevism, an extension of Judaism, might conquer the world. That is the only freedom you want. Oh, and I bet you will say you are a Christian too. Sayanim often use that little ruse.
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Feb 21, 2012 @ 00:22:44
‘Mothman’: This situation is highly emotive, controversial and likely to raise everyone’s hackles. Let’s re-wind and re-consider. We need to deeply analyse the issues here and to uncover the truth, if that can be done. You raised a lot of valid points ! Certainly America isn’t perfect – far from it. Look at it’s banking system for example, which enslaves the people with crippling % interest on the $.
‘Mothman’: How can any of us who are relying on the world’s press ( and politicians ) for information, be really sure about what we are being asked to believe ? Did the Iranian Prime Minister really say that Israel should be wiped off the face of the planet ? If we, the ‘normal’ people, had access to the actual truth ( for a change ) then perhaps we could present in forums like this some real grist for the mill. But all we are doing is presenting conjecture based on insufficient information.
You can’t invade someone’s country on ‘conjecture’ and I’ve no personal issue with Iran or it’s people per se’. Undoubtedly it’s true to say there is a massive cultural divide – therefore, all ‘sides’ need to respect these historical differences. In this day and age, we need to find out what we CAN agree on and move forwards from there. Surely our world has enough pressing problems and we need to UNITE to overcome those. But such an ideal can’t ever be realised if we allow religious fanatacism to over-ride common sense !
And why oh why can’t we reject nuclear power and turn our backs on oil, when in fact there are real alternatives. Look what we’ve done – we’ve sucked the oil out of the ground and put it over our heads, to all intents and purposes. And we’ve poisoned the earth and it’s oceans in the process. Look at the Gulf of Mexico ! And Israel – ? Why didn’t the Axis powers hand over Germany, or half of it to the Jews at the end of WW2 – ? This would have been some recompense for the holocaust, at very least.
Why are we collectively wasting massive sums of money on weapons when everyone’s currency would be better spent on the pressing needs of the planet and the people ? There is too much madness and when the inmates are running the asylum, all we can expect is to live in a Bedlam without walls.
Those of us who can vote, we should be using that priviledge to vote more wisely. In the USA, Senator Ron Paul is actually telling it how it is.
Muslims – consider your beliefs – and consider that your values and way of life is not going to fit into any Western democracy. Stay in your own countries and do all you can to effect change in your own lands – don’t come to our Western democracies expecting US to change to suit YOU.
No wonder Russia doesn’t want a war in the region ! By bombing Iranian nuclear facilities, above or below ground, airborne radiation is likely to drift over Russian territory and then fall to the ground. The whole scenario is just too horrible to contemplate. People on all sides need to come to their senses and FAST. ‘Mothman’ – and fellow readers of this forum – what is the solution that would satisfy everyone concerned ? It’s going to be a compromise of course. So what IS that compromise ?
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Feb 20, 2012 @ 19:49:22
No More Tears – The End Game
http://www.peterjamesx.com/Rhema%202012/No%20More%20Tears.htm
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Feb 20, 2012 @ 17:46:54
Even if I believed that Iran was the boogeyman that the media (Jewish controlled) tells me it is, will someone please tell me who is going to pay for this war?
If America is to pay for it, how? Borrow from China, which would become an overnight enemy? Yeah right.
Does anybody understand the financial destruction that another war will cost America and her precious dollar? Israel, step up and finance your own wars of aggression, America is tapped out and waking up to your propaganda media baloney.
Russia was once carved up after the Cold War by the elites after they destoyed her economy, what do you think will happen in America? Either way the elites win, they will get Irans bank and oi,l or they will get what is left of America, and if they play everyone perfectly they will get both.
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Feb 20, 2012 @ 09:49:17
Look up the definition of the word colonialism and think about the centuries the Europeans and Americans have invaded weaker countries to allow their freebooters and corporations to steal their minerals natural resources and lands for colonization. Enslaving murdering and committing genocide against the Indigenous people to do it.
What makes a person mad enough to want to kill themselves to kill as many Americans as possible? Would seeing your people murdered and terrorized in order for your countries resources to be stolen send one over the edge?
The CIA engineered the 1953 coup that toppled the Prime Minister and installed the despot Shah.
The CIA sent Saddam weapons and munitions and chemicals that he used on the Kurds and the Iranians when he invaded the Iranian oilfields,
The CIA sent Bin Laden weapons and munitions when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan.
The thieves and murderers know China and Russia will join in if Israel attacks Iran, If America joins in on Israels behalf America will finish turning into the police state it is morphing into. There are enough militarized police and mercenaries and private prisons to ensure there is no dessent or obstruction to the policies of colonialism that America is foisting on other countries.
Democracy huh.
As Indigenous who sees my peoples resources and lands stolen and my people having genocide committed against them in order to do it, I would say it is sweet justice that the thieves and murderers who foisted their colonialism on my people, but for the fact that all Americans are implicated with these thieves and murderers
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Feb 20, 2012 @ 07:39:32
2nd USA Today source link is incorrect Marti. Perhaps you can update it. Brilliant article otherwise and right on the money I believe!
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Feb 20, 2012 @ 02:27:54
Yes indeed, Jewish minds were at work in the creation of the atomic bomb, but so was German intellect.
The atomic bomb was invented by two refugee German scientists in Britain, Professor Rudolph Peierls and Otto Frisch, of Birmingham University. They designed a “blue-print” for making an atom bomb in 1940. It actually began when the Italian-born physicist Enrico Fermi, working in the United States, invented an apparatus which produced the first atomic chain reactions. In 1940 both the Americans and British were researching the atom bomb and when the United States entered WW2, the British joined the American “Manhattan Project” and production of the bomb went on ahead in the US.
But why digress from the moot point I made in my post which was in reply to the original thread ? Does this somehow excuse Muslim fanaticism ? And it seems that Mothman is unaware of the stated aim of Islam, which is world domination. This is Fascism in a different guise. And I drew stark attention to this unsavory fanatical and hideous objective in my posting – so why is Mothman not willing to recognise, or even mention or acknowledge this fact ? The truth is, none of the Western democracies desire a nuclear war. And that is the sole reason that the signatories to the 1960’s non-proliferation treaty are nervous about giving in to Iranian nuclear ambitions. The Iranian President recently upped the war ante very considerably by throwing down the gauntlet and declaring that Israel should be wiped off the face of the map. This is dangerous and inflammatory talk indeed in a region known to be sensetive and only fans the flames of an already contagious fire.
This sort of irresponsible rhetoric is very likely to cause hysteria and bring about the unthinkable. Therefore it is hardly surprising that the international non-Muslim community is not enthusiastic about Iran becoming a nuclear power. Has any ‘Western’ democracy ever declared that any other nation should be wiped off the face of the planet ? Stop digressing away from the heart of the matter ‘Mothmanistan’ or whatever your real name is ! Do your homework and look at the reality because time is running out. Of course the Israeli’s do not want a war – but they will not idly stand by and allow a stated Muslim aggressor to gain superiority in the Middle East – which is what Iran is hell-bent on doing. What would you have them do ?
As for the oil fields running out, Iran’s oil and gas reserves are not likely to run out anytime soon and probably not for 100 years at least. And there is existing solar technology for any sunlight endowed country to make use of. I have to say I don’t trust people who hide behind pen names – Mothman are you a closet Muslim perhaps or just a foolish and naive idealist ? I already made the valid point in my first response that Iran – and any sunlight endowed nation for that matter, can easily and safely harness solar and convective power to drive turbines. Nuclear energy is outmoded technology and long over it’s ‘sell by’ date, just like the Space Shuttle is old technology. Nor is it safe, and leaves behind unsavory waste products for 100 thousand years. Ask the people of Finland how they feel about Onkalo, for example.
As for the alleged ‘Samson Option’ – you misquote it somewhat – an overview can be read here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option and more fully here:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/wmd/world/israel/doctrine.htm
Indeed, it does seem one-sided that other nations can possess nuclear technology and by extension, nuclear weapons. However, and this is vital to be clear about in any argument or discussion – no Western country has as yet launched atomic weapons against any other nation, with the exception of the very terrible decision to drop two bombs on Japan in 1945. If two hadn’t had the desired effect, Tokyo was going to be next. This did bring about a Japanese surrender – not surprisingly. I don’t personally condone it but history can’t be undone. No-one in their right mind wishes to see this action repeated anywhere else on the planet.
My own belief is simply that any person should be free to believe in what they will – as long as they don’t intend to force this down the throat of anyone else who doesn’t subscribe to the same view. If Muslims wish to treat their womenfolk like cattle and to marry pre-pubescent girls behind their own borders – well, who are we to disapprove ? Or if Muslims wish to live with Stone Age thinking in 2012, then they are guilty of preventing their own people and the rest of the world to move synchronously towards the greater evolvement of mankind for the greater good.
Religion is the ‘Achilles Heel’ of mankind. We don’t need it and it has brought nothing but the furtherance of ignorance. Religion has become the mental ‘club foot’ of mankind, manacling him to the past and preventing him from harmonious forward momentum, anchoring him to pea-brain tunnel vision and the Pigmy in him. All religions, save Zen Buddhism and the like, are nothing more than the illusions of deluded and brainwashed minds. And for those of us who have freed ourselves from such ignorance and limitations, we see only reality and the bigger picture. We have truly seen ‘the light’.
There is good in all people of course! – but as long as one belief system considers itself and it’s people to be the moral and superior masters of another, there will always be war. Because of the stated aim of Islamic domination of the world, Muslims and Islam are the greatest force of evil in our present lifetime – worse even than the Nazis – and unless it is kept in check and within the borders of it’s own lands where the Crescent Moon is raised against the skyline, we in the free Western Democracies have every reason to be as nervous and unflinching as the Israelis. What other choice do we have ?
I for one am unwilling to become a Muslim and will fight against further Muslim encroachment on my land or it’s introduction or indoctrination in my country. There is mass migration out of Islamic countries towards non-Muslim countries such as Switzerland, Norway, Denmark, Sweden, the U.K., Germany, The Netherlands, Australia and Pacific Rim, and the USA – WHY ? And everywhere it manifests itself, there is hatred, violence and discord. In stark contrast, there is no reverse influx from these free democracies towards re-settlement in Muslim territories ! It’s one way traffic brother. The Muslims have condemned us volubly – so why, when they hate our systems, our freedoms and our guts so much, do they come as hordes to our lands – ? Answer: Because they are jealous of our lands and of what we have. Jealous of our way of life, jealous of our modern and beautiful cities and suburbs, our medical and social systems. Our sanitary and clean landscapes; yes – they want it all for themselves, to colonise it by de facto force of numbers and sleight of hand. Just like the Martians in the H.G. Wells novel, The War Of The Worlds. Some of us have seen the danger and change is being implemented. Some of us can see the Big Picture. The forces amassing in the Persian Gulf are further proof that others too have seen behind the veils and other ugly masking apparel.
It is quite possible that Islam is bringing down upon it’s own head, a very terrible and very final judgment. This will depend largely on the Chinese and Russians and in the final analysis, which is the better man to stand with. The democratic West has more in common with the Communists, than the Communists have with the Koran and ‘Islam’. It remains to be seen whether Iran will shoot itself in the foot, or if the Western democracies are in fact caught between a rock and a hard place. There doesn’t appear to be a lot of middle ground, so someone or something has to ‘give’ – and that is my grim reading of the situation and the heart of the matter, regardless of who invented what or when – or whichever shape-shifting smokescreen is wafted across the truth in order to obfuscate it further. Quite possibly we are now in the late stages of a real clash of the cultures and some sort of determination of the Cross – and/or – the Crescent. Irreligious as I am, my money is on the Cross.
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Feb 20, 2012 @ 00:44:52
“But we sold Israel those nukes and once the weapons were delivered, the stage was set.”
And I’ve heard from friends in the defense industry, though I can’t exactly post a URL for this, that they’ve also gotten nuke-capable subs from us as well.
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Feb 19, 2012 @ 21:28:39
Excellent article. Though Andy Martin’s comment failed to mention that atomic weapons are the invention of Jews; Leo Szilard invented the atom bomb in 1934 and filed a patent for it in England in 1934. Since then every other type of nuclear weapon in existence has been designed by Jews, and it is they and their proxy governments who are in the position to destroy us all. Much of the nuclear weapons technology possessed by Israel has been stolen from the USA, and the USA in profound gratitude has just delivered 200 nuclear bunker busting mini-nukes to Israel to attack Iran with. Of course the USA has been a proxy of Israel in all military affairs for many years, with the American people imprisoned under a cruel dictatorship under Jewish government. Rigged elections fail to free the people of the USA from this; see the shamefully rigged results against Ron Paul, an anti-war representative. This leaves only the choice of civil war to end the insanity of being engaged to suicidally fight constant wars for Israel.
Why doesn’t Andy Martin mention the Samson Option, which constantly remains a threat to every European city, and other cities around the world? Did that slip his mind, or is he just unaware of the existence of the threat by Israel to destroy the entire world, with many of the nuclear weapons possessed by Israel currently aimed at European cities, those European cities curiously being targeted by the Israeli air force as ‘targets of choice’. Europe is so ‘anti-semitic’ they say, as well as the USA, yet the Jewish leaders of the USA and NATO countries there always send their armies to fight on behalf of Israel on the slightest whim, following obvious false flag attacks to provide the flimsiest of excuses.
The absolute madness of it all is that the very same nations that serve Israel are under constant threat of annihilation by them. Muslim nations have not threatened this, nor does their religion intend the extermination of all other people, as the Jewish religion does. For a more detailed analysis, see my essays, particularly ‘Metanoia’ at ‘Mothman777’s Blog’.
Whatever could have led to such a rabidly psychotic action by Israel? In the event that Israel faces military defeat, Israel has decided to loose off nuclear missiles at every city in Europe, and elsewhere in the world, to take us all out with them, and this is a literal threat; the reason why? Because Europe and the rest of the entire world is held to be somehow directly responsible if Israel comes under attack and therefore we are all to be quite rightly and justifiably annihilated because we did not serve the Jews well enough as their slaves.
Only the Jewish faith states one of it’s aims as being to exterminate all gentiles in the entire world. No other faith does this. I am not a Muslim, and honestly would prefer to see all members of all three Abrahamic faiths leave those religions and adopt religions of more universal compassion, like those found in the Vedic and Sikh faiths.
Rabbi Ovadia Yosef stated that the only reason goyim are born is to serve the Jews, and that the only reason those goyim who live long lives get to do so is because they serve the Jews. Get it? if you don’t serve the Jews, your life will be cut short! (Iraq and Libya, among others) The Israeli Jewish Samson Option is the real current threat to the world, and that is where the attention of the world’s military should be directed, to save us from being blackmailed by the constantly burgeoning threat of nuclear destruction if we do not serve the Jews as slaves.
The reason Iran is processing uranium is because Iran has some of the greatest deposits of uranium ore in the entire world, and the world demands nuclear fuel. Also, Iran’s oil will be finished soon, so this is why Iran intends to process large amounts of uranium, for the world energy market, though this very important fact is almost never mentioned in today’s media. Iran is not a threat, it is scheduled to get whacked, regardless of what it processes or does not process, along with all other Arab nations to bring about world Jewish hegemony.
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Feb 19, 2012 @ 19:31:26
Iran will never start a nuclear war but Israel will start one by false flag and blame Iran. Remember the Mossad motto is “BY DECEPTION, THOU SHALT MAKE WAR”
Also remember the USS Liberty that Israel tried to blame on Egypt.
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Feb 19, 2012 @ 18:10:13
Let’s be realistic about Iran, because the ideal is not ever going to be reached.
Fact 1: Iran is sitting on so much energy, it has no need for nuclear power – period. In fact, nobody needs nuclear power, and sun-belt countries such as Iran can make great use of solar energy and convection-derived turbines to generate electricity. So Iran is lying.
Fact 2: Iran wants to be the self-appointed leader of the Islamic nations – with nuclear teeth. If anyone wishes to understand the threat that Iran (and Islam) poses to world peace it is necessary to understand the Koran and what it teaches, and what it seeks to achieve, ergo: World Domination – that planet earth will be 100% Islamic.
Fact 3: This cannot happen until the return of the ‘Mahgdi’ – (their version of Jesus). The only snag for them and the rest of ‘us’ – is that the Big M cannot return until the stage is set and the pre-requisite conditions are established, as prophesied. The prophesy describes a world in flames and at the point of self-destructing. And it is then and only then, at the point of global cataclysm, that the Big M arrives on his magic carpet and deals a shattering blow to all the non-Muslim nations and establishes universal obeyance to the Islamic faith.
FACT 4: Consider then if you will, that those of us of non-Islamic faith will be put to the sword – men, women and children all. And consider also that the Islamic nations are willing to subject themselves to mass suicide in order to achieve the right conditions for the Big M and his return. Now focus on a busy Uranium-enriching Iran in 2012 – and ask yourself WHY ?
Given enough of this isotope, ‘Uran’ will then be likely to strike a pre-emptive nuclear strike at Israel. Which in turn will invite a massive response, which in turn will bring on WW3 and ‘the cataclysm’. They are doing all they can to bring that on. Of course, this will result not in the return of any imaginary Big M, but will result instead in the modern world as we know it being bombed back to the Stone Age with all the mutant horrors and global death/nuclear winter that would follow such a war.
And it will be brought on by nothing more and nothing less than the INSANITY which is called religious fanaticism. Not because of oil wars, or the much vaunted nonsense about a New World Order or other conspiracy theories. No! – it is about the dangerous and irresponsible proliferation of nuclear weapons in the hands of irresponsible religious fanatics. Einstein said: “I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones.”
So there you have in a nutshell, the realistic and most likely scenario now unfolding in the Middle East. It’s a NO WIN situation. We cannot allow ‘them’ to have nuclear technology – but in their race to acquire it, our response will in turn bring on the very conflagration required for the nonsensical return of their imaginary ‘Mahgdi’. Ladies and Gentlemen, a fait accompli – the end of the world and a return to the Stone Age – only this time, a globally irradiated one.
That is the madness of mankind for you. And the Islamists don’t care either way, because they believe they will go to ‘heaven’ no matter what happens – as ‘martyrs’. Why can’t they just all go on their own, without us ? Sigh… Therefore, the world has only survived so far, inasmuch as the time it has taken for Arab fanatics to acquire the bomb. And as soon as that moment is reached (and it has to all intents and purposes) we are all doomed, because no matter which option ‘The West’ decides upon – to intervene and strike first, or to permit Iran to become ‘Uran’- WW3 is guaranteed either way. It’s Catch 22 – we have no valid response in fact because whatever we do, the result will be the same! Do we not see how cleverly the Iranian religious fanatics have maneuvered us all? In fact, we are against the wall with no place else to go.
As in WW1, countries allied to each other will be forced to join in and take a ‘side’. In the case of Iran, it’s more or less certain that China and Russia will ‘side’ with Iran. Therefore, a conflagration will ensue which will certainly result in atomic detonations occur in the lands we all occupy, our cities razed to the ground as in Hiroshima but on a vastly greater scale. It will be THE END of all life as we know it. Question: How could any confrontation in the Middle East be only a ‘limited’ nuclear exchange – ?
Works of art, politicians, some royalty and heads of State will survive the worst, but will inherit an earth so blighted with radiation that they will wish they would have died with the rest of us. And no God or Mahgdi will come to put matters right. In the final analysis, mankind, regardless of religious orientation will be forced to realise that mankind and mankind alone, is responsible for it’s own actions – and it’s own fate. It’s not in the hands of any imaginary
Messianic figure – it’s in ours.
To believe anything else is ignorance and pure insanity and always was. The only ‘New World Order’ on the cards is going to comprise of the few sorry individuals who somehow manage to crawl out of the shelters and join hands. In this post-apocalyptic world, everyone will agree that religion is dead but ironically, it will have taken the death of everything for the inheritors of the scorched earth to realise this simple truth.
In a matter of days, we will have destroyed a planet that took billions of years to evolve into a beautiful habitat for myriad forms of life, to be systematically destroyed by the most evil thing it ever propagated – mankind. A vile, disgusting and terminally stupid and selfish ‘thing’ that achieved dominance over all else by the use of it’s propensity to violence against every other living organism.
So here is the ultimatum facing us right now: Unless ALL nations can gather together and immediately agree that A) in reality God is a man-made invention and does not exist, and B) to immediately de-commission and end all nuclear power programs, then we are destined to destroy everything over a non-issue.
The best music we can start playing throughout 2012 is the idiotic ‘They’re Coming To Take Me Away Ha Haaa’ by Napoleon X1V. It’s the most fitting tune to be nuked by and is equally suited to Popes, ‘Royalty’, religious fanatics of all shades (particularly Muslims), big business and naturally – all governments, banana republics and oppressive dictatorships. Here’s the link: http://www.myspace.com/music/player?sid=27878045&ac=now
Turn it UP !!!! And would someone please send a copy to Iranian Ayatollah Khamenei and his ‘disciple’ Ahmadinejad, plus a bag of Gillette disposable razors. They should be playing this on non-stop rotation from all Mosques and State Radio, starting from today. The rest of us are already acquainted with it but it can’t hurt to hear it again.
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Feb 19, 2012 @ 17:48:58
If women ruled the world would it be just as bad? Well if Hitlery Clinton & Maggie Thatcher were involved I suspect it would …
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Feb 19, 2012 @ 17:41:11
right on the money…unfortunately…… but most people i have regular contact with are raving with the idea to submit Syria and Iran to the same treatment Lybia (That insolent, non-complying country!) has seen, because of their oil reserves and the audacity to plan for their own Central Bank. Having relatives in Europe, i must say that I am becoming ashamed of “representing” a country that engages in imperialism and total lack of respect for human life. This are sad times, when the world looks at the US not as the helper in helpless situations, but as an aggressor that is only out to rape for oil and empire.
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Feb 19, 2012 @ 17:35:51
Our government does only what the people tell it or allow it to do. Want a better government? Be better people.
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Feb 19, 2012 @ 17:30:14
I don’t like that beady eyed little Iranian president. He’s trouble
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Feb 19, 2012 @ 15:53:57
Can’t be said any better than this, Marti. One for the ages.
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Feb 19, 2012 @ 15:15:54
If women ruled the world would it be just as bad?
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Feb 19, 2012 @ 15:13:11
None of us are safe from the New World Odor
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The staging of yet another war: We are what we claimed we despised « Falklands Harvest II
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Feb 19, 2012 @ 14:02:59
Most Americans don’t need to be preconditioned for another war of aggression. They are way too stupid to understand or care. Their preconditioning is not sought or needed. They control NOTHING in these matters of wars. What they think means nothing to U.S. military mass murderers. They plan on killing YOU, too.
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Feb 19, 2012 @ 12:57:53
Great article.
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Feb 19, 2012 @ 11:19:39
Excellent summary. Right on the money. Well done.
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Feb 18, 2012 @ 05:58:18
Truth…really what can we believe from the power brokers that have been so bought out by the greed for oil and power?
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