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Been laid off? Rising Health Insurance premiums got you down? Having to eye that gold heirloom necklace that Grandma left you to buy a few groceries? Thinking of seriously speaking to your Dentist in order to have that “better economic days” gold tooth pulled for cash?
Well, if you live in Washington State, you may want to take notice of NIBS HB 1716 (PDF) which changes the current law in the following manner:
(2) ((This)) For any transaction involving property consisting of
a precious metal, every secondhand dealer or temporary, transient
secondhand dealer doing business in this state shall maintain wherever
that business is conducted a record in which shall be legibly written
in the English language, at the time of each transaction, the following
information:
(a) The signature and photo of the person with whom the transaction
is made. If the amount paid is greater than one hundred dollars, then
the signature, photo, and fingerprint of the person with whom the
transaction is made;
(b) The time and date of the transaction;
(c) The name of the person or employee or the identification number
of the person or employee conducting the transaction, as required by
the applicable chief of police or the county’s chief law enforcement
officer. If the amount paid is greater than one hundred dollars, then
the name of the person or employee or the identification number of the
person or employee conducting the transaction;
(d) The name, date of birth, sex, height, weight, race, and
residential address and telephone number of the person with whom the
transaction is made;
(e) A complete description of the property pledged, bought, or
consigned, including the brand name, serial number, model number or
name, any initials or engraving, size, pattern, and color of stone or
stones, and in the case of firearms, the caliber, barrel length, type
of action, and whether it is a pistol, rifle, or shotgun;
(f) The price paid. If the amount paid is greater than one hundred
dollars the amount may not be by cash but must be by a written
instruction to pay signed by the person giving the instruction;(g) The type and identifying number of identification used by the
person with whom the transaction was made, which shall consist of a
valid driver’s license or identification card issued by any state or
two pieces of identification issued by a governmental agency, one of
which shall be descriptive of the person identified, and a full copy of
both sides of each piece of identification used by the person with whom
the transaction was made.
At all times, one piece of current
government issued picture identification will be required; and
(h) The nature of the transaction, a number identifying the
transaction, the store identification as designated by the applicable
law enforcement agency, or the name and address of the business or
location, including the street address, and room number if appropriate,
and the name of the person or employee, conducting the transaction, and
the location of the property.2) Property consisting of a precious metal bought or received on
consignment by any secondhand dealer with a permanent place of business
in the state may not be removed from that place of business except
consigned property returned to the owner, within forty-five days after
the receipt of the property.It is a class C felony under chapter 9A.20 RCW for a secondhand
dealer to commit a second or subsequent violation of subsection (1) of
this section involving property consisting of a precious metal.
So not only does the small business person have the privilege of having to gather the sellers fingerprints (and hopefully store those in an appropriate manner), but they are unable to sell the item for 45 days. With the fluctuating price of precious metals what sane business person would consent to that?
A hearing is scheduled for today.
Feb 15 Scheduled for public hearing in the House Committee on Public Safety & Emergency Preparedness at 10:00 AM
If Washington State residents feel that this is a NIB that would be best stopped in Committee, here are the individuals to contact:
Click through the above link to find the individuals that may represent you.
Introducing Legislator:
Co-Sponsors:
News Media Concerning HB 1716:
Cash for gold buyers regulated under proposed WA bill
Bill aims to make it harder for crooks to sell jewelry
Neely, the South Hill businessman, said he doubts the bill would catch its intended target. He said he doesn’t think police will be able to, or have time to, enforce the law against transient operations.
Neely’s secondhand dealer’s license with Pierce County for his business at 14003 Meridian E. already requires him to hold items for 15 days, he said. He said he logs the seller’s name, address, phone number and driver’s license number.
Neely also objected to the legislation barring cash payment for amounts greater than $100 and requiring fingerprints.
“It’s just going to be really cumbersome having to write $100 checks when we normally pay cash,” Neely said.
“Now, I’ve to get their fingerprints? That’s just nuts.”
“The honest ones will be able to comply,” said Asay, who proposed the bill at the urging of Federal Way officials. “This gives the police officers the tools to make sure they’re legitimate.
“Hopefully,” the freshman legislator said, “it will dramatically reduce the break-ins in the homes.”
Actually, what just might reduce the possibility of break-ins would be the ability of a Homeowner to defend their home through the use of a handgun to deter individuals who don’t care to read HB 1716 and won’t comply anyhow.
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Nov 10, 2011 @ 02:03:58
If the idiots in Seattle would quit electing our Marxist leaders maybe we could have free markets in Washington State again.
Nov 10, 2011 @ 02:01:43
They say one of the reasons there are doing this is to not only cut down on burglaries but to protect the person selling his or her gold from being exploited. Well if we have to wait 45 days before we can sell the gold and silver how can we give them fair market value????????????????????????????? Washington state is a socialist policed state.
Aug 28, 2011 @ 15:57:42
What’s wrong with our leaders? They think Government is here to run our lives! They seem to forget it’s “We The People”! Heck, next they will want us to have a used car inspected prior to selling it, to protect the buyer! Instead of controlling the sheeple- the “Useful Idiots”, our leaders should be more concerned with our sloopy education system! Educate our kids- what a novel concept? Teach them to be decent people. Then our leaders will not have to be so concerned that gold buyers are thieves! What is really behind this is that our leaders want a cut of the gold pie. But they do not want to earn it. That’s what they are really concerned with here. They care about protecting gold sellers and gold owners as much as they care about street people in Seattle! They must really think we are stupid!
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Feb 19, 2011 @ 04:31:56
Feb 19, 2011 @ 02:02:03
In addition, I can see Sarah Palin saying, ..”and how’s that chip in your forehead workin’ out for ya?”
Feb 19, 2011 @ 01:58:44
Has anyone thought about how this will effect the rare coin market? Read the bill again, and you will see that this applies to every coin dealer/shop in the state. Every collectible rare coin can be considered “second hand”.
Just another notch higher on the flame with the frog in the pan….brainwashing the fools into this cashless society, and the majority of Americans are blindly falling into the trap…automatic deposit..credit cards….debit cards…you people better wake up! When the Federal Reserve Notes are declared worthless, and the precious metals recorded are confiscated, what will you use for currency? That chip embedded in your forehead? Good luck with that.
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Feb 18, 2011 @ 22:14:26
Feb 18, 2011 @ 16:14:21
HB 1716 Has now been referred to the Rules Committe (25 members) – so like a fast food chain surely there is one near you to visit:
http://www.leg.wa.gov/House/Committees/RUL/Pages/MembersStaff.aspx
For the “new and revised” HB 1716 (http://apps.leg.wa.gov/documents/billdocs/2011-12/Pdf/Bills/House%20Bills/1716-S.pdf) – it looks like Legislators received enough calls to remove any application to Gun owners and fingerprinting.
If you know anyone in Washington who holds “Gold Parties”, might want to make them aware that Section 9 will directly affect their person-to-person sales.
Feb 17, 2011 @ 12:14:25
Feb 17, 2011 @ 05:34:19
A Washington…
Conduct your buisness as YOU see fit & tell them to F off….
Feb 17, 2011 @ 03:37:38
“FOUR LEGS GOOD, TWO LEGS BAD…FOUR LEGS GOOD…TWO LEGS BAD.” “ANIMAL FARM.”
Feb 16, 2011 @ 23:26:45
How come my fingerprints are all over your eyeballs. Can you not identify them or should I press them one more time?
Actually there is way more identification and personalization from a knuckleprint than a fingerprint, especially when two or more, side by side.
Ron Paul get these bass turds off my back ’cause if I have to do it myself, it ain’t going to be pretty.
Feb 16, 2011 @ 23:25:02
Utah beat them to it in 2009 Curt Bramble and Rebecca Lockhart enacted a similar bill in Utah then these “conservatives” criticize Obama when he put the 1099 report for sales over 600 dollars a year later they all need the sheep they try to shear to bite like a wolf!
Feb 16, 2011 @ 20:17:22
More “Lawmakers” that need lead poisoning.
Feb 16, 2011 @ 20:07:50
The whole point of owning, buying and selling precious metals is to keep you scumbag thieving politicians out of our business. FU.
Feb 16, 2011 @ 00:05:00
Hearing results can be seen here http://apps.leg.wa.gov/cmd/default.aspx?aid=16596
(must click 01-1716 Prop Sub (114k) ) on left tool bar):
(the requirement for the person’s fingerprints have been removed)
(All references relating to recording the description of any
transactions involving guns and other firearms have been removed since they have nothing to do with precious metals.)
Proposed by Representative Kirby